Mob farms
Aconan, Tue Nov 18 2014, 01:46PMWe all know how intensive they can be, especially at spawn. Now we have several options, remove them entirely, put them far out, or put them in the Nether.
If all mobs farms were in the nether, it would make the over-world a far nice place for toasters.
Thoughts?
Re: Mob farms
adrenalynn, Tue Nov 18 2014, 04:56PM
i already have a minimal slimefarm at my house at spawn. Minimal because its spawnrate is very slow since i can't mob proof all the chunks around it at spawn area. So it definitly shouldn't cause any problems.
Personally i would go with the far out option since not all mobs can spawn in the Nether.
For spawning farms, at least. Farm animal farms (cows, sheep and such) would perfectly work in the Nether and easy access for all. So maybe even better having them in the Nether for all to use instead of everyone building his/her own one.
adrenalynn, Tue Nov 18 2014, 04:56PM
i already have a minimal slimefarm at my house at spawn. Minimal because its spawnrate is very slow since i can't mob proof all the chunks around it at spawn area. So it definitly shouldn't cause any problems.
Personally i would go with the far out option since not all mobs can spawn in the Nether.
For spawning farms, at least. Farm animal farms (cows, sheep and such) would perfectly work in the Nether and easy access for all. So maybe even better having them in the Nether for all to use instead of everyone building his/her own one.
Re: Mob farms
draze, Tue Nov 18 2014, 05:49PM
The only problem there is the nether rules. Nothing to stop anyone going "oh, nice work. *Hulk smash*" Those rules will never change. To be fair, at least further out means that the chunk is only loaded when the player is around.
On a side note, if we find any chunkloading machines (if there still are any) at a mobfarm. We wont be pleased...
draze, Tue Nov 18 2014, 05:49PM
The only problem there is the nether rules. Nothing to stop anyone going "oh, nice work. *Hulk smash*" Those rules will never change. To be fair, at least further out means that the chunk is only loaded when the player is around.
On a side note, if we find any chunkloading machines (if there still are any) at a mobfarm. We wont be pleased...
Re: Mob farms
adrenalynn, Tue Nov 18 2014, 07:40PM
unrelated to topic: just noticed all animals near spawn area got killed. i perfectly understand such action is neccessary in case of server problems to find the reason of the lag/outage.
But may i ask for a sign if a mod has had to take action? Not everyone reads the forums before getting into rage or something. I did, understand why/what happened, all fine. But not everyone will react like that
adrenalynn, Tue Nov 18 2014, 07:40PM
unrelated to topic: just noticed all animals near spawn area got killed. i perfectly understand such action is neccessary in case of server problems to find the reason of the lag/outage.
But may i ask for a sign if a mod has had to take action? Not everyone reads the forums before getting into rage or something. I did, understand why/what happened, all fine. But not everyone will react like that
Re: Mob farms
Flightster, Tue Nov 18 2014, 07:50PM
This topic was discussed a few years ago aswel, going off memory: building any sort of mob trap, no matter the size, in a highly populated area will always be active and thus always put streign on the server. So basically, mob traps are preffered to be in an area with a very low (even 0) population to preserve server resources (it only being active if there are people there).
Building any of these things in spawn would, for that reason, not be a good idea. I remember Blinky's preffered area used to be out in the middle of an ocean, which was pretty effective.
Flightster, Tue Nov 18 2014, 07:50PM
This topic was discussed a few years ago aswel, going off memory: building any sort of mob trap, no matter the size, in a highly populated area will always be active and thus always put streign on the server. So basically, mob traps are preffered to be in an area with a very low (even 0) population to preserve server resources (it only being active if there are people there).
Building any of these things in spawn would, for that reason, not be a good idea. I remember Blinky's preffered area used to be out in the middle of an ocean, which was pretty effective.
Re: Mob farms
Discharge, Tue Nov 18 2014, 10:42PM
Discharge, Tue Nov 18 2014, 10:42PM
From what I understand, every entity in loaded chunks had to be removed all at once. It would have taken a lot of signs. I myself lost several good horses, all my maps, item frames etc.But may i ask for a sign if a mod has had to take action?
adrenalynn
Re: Mob farms
BRooNiE, Tue Nov 18 2014, 11:05PM
I could of still placed a sign after the removal of mobs.
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A sign was not placed as it honestly wasn't though of. Though if you do know where to look you would fine out what happened.
We could look to do a news post in future. I just looked to get the server back up as soon as possible (find the chunks causing the issue, and clear all entities within them due to a mobspawner that was out of control)
BRooNiE, Tue Nov 18 2014, 11:05PM
From what I understand, every entity in loaded chunks had to be removed all at once. It would have taken a lot of signs. I myself lost several good horses, all my maps, item frames etc.But may i ask for a sign if a mod has had to take action?
adrenalynn
Discharge
I could of still placed a sign after the removal of mobs.
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A sign was not placed as it honestly wasn't though of. Though if you do know where to look you would fine out what happened.
We could look to do a news post in future. I just looked to get the server back up as soon as possible (find the chunks causing the issue, and clear all entities within them due to a mobspawner that was out of control)
Re: Mob farms
Sybrio, Wed Nov 19 2014, 01:22PM
Well i lost my 3 wolves Uppercut Mr mullington and Cliffjumper can i atleast have a horse?
Sybrio, Wed Nov 19 2014, 01:22PM
Well i lost my 3 wolves Uppercut Mr mullington and Cliffjumper can i atleast have a horse?
Re: Mob farms
Flightster, Wed Nov 19 2014, 03:04PM
We usually don't refund items in these cases, Sybrio. Broonie had to clear those areas of all entities to ensure the server was accessible, nothing anyone can do about that aside from manage their mob farms properly.
Flightster, Wed Nov 19 2014, 03:04PM
We usually don't refund items in these cases, Sybrio. Broonie had to clear those areas of all entities to ensure the server was accessible, nothing anyone can do about that aside from manage their mob farms properly.
Re: Mob farms
adrenalynn, Wed Nov 19 2014, 05:18PM
Just take one of mines Sybrio or breed them. They are still there surprisingly, maybe one lucky chunk further out from spawn. Same offer goes for Discharge and anyone else that might have lost horses.
adrenalynn, Wed Nov 19 2014, 05:18PM
Just take one of mines Sybrio or breed them. They are still there surprisingly, maybe one lucky chunk further out from spawn. Same offer goes for Discharge and anyone else that might have lost horses.
Re: Mob farms
Sybrio, Fri Nov 21 2014, 12:25PM
Okie! Thx addy!
Sybrio, Fri Nov 21 2014, 12:25PM
Okie! Thx addy!
Re: Mob farms
piggles, Sat Nov 22 2014, 05:53PM
i've not had the time to logon at all recently but if my horses are still alive u can use them to breed, they arn't a great stock mind
oh they are in my complex along the east railway you can't miss it next to the horse race track
piggles, Sat Nov 22 2014, 05:53PM
i've not had the time to logon at all recently but if my horses are still alive u can use them to breed, they arn't a great stock mind
oh they are in my complex along the east railway you can't miss it next to the horse race track
Re: Mob farms
draze, Wed Nov 26 2014, 02:10AM
new server piggles
draze, Wed Nov 26 2014, 02:10AM
new server piggles
Re: Mob farms
tamlfra, Wed Nov 26 2014, 04:22AM
So what happened, am i missing something... There was crap ton of lag, so all mobs/animals were wiped? If so, I guess that's a downside to settling at spawn in a nice cluster of people
tamlfra, Wed Nov 26 2014, 04:22AM
So what happened, am i missing something... There was crap ton of lag, so all mobs/animals were wiped? If so, I guess that's a downside to settling at spawn in a nice cluster of people
Re: Mob farms
draze, Wed Nov 26 2014, 04:38AM
was before you went on leave kobes
draze, Wed Nov 26 2014, 04:38AM
was before you went on leave kobes
Re: Mob farms
Soul_UK, Wed Nov 26 2014, 10:31PM
Just to clarify things - it's not a good idea to build any large spawning systems or breed lots of animals near to Spawn. For modified servers, it's also not a good idea to build large and complex machines near Spawn and leave them running while you are away. It all adds up to a lot of lag at Spawn and makes all members around the area suffer.
Therefore if you want such things - please do them away from Spawn. However, please do not build huge spawners anywhere on the map. We have seen one so far that got out of control to the point it crashed the server anytime anyone went near, requiring the recent "reset" of the area near Spawn, making people lose Mobs (friend or foe) in order to make the area accessible.
So please build / spawn / breed responsibly
Soul_UK, Wed Nov 26 2014, 10:31PM
Just to clarify things - it's not a good idea to build any large spawning systems or breed lots of animals near to Spawn. For modified servers, it's also not a good idea to build large and complex machines near Spawn and leave them running while you are away. It all adds up to a lot of lag at Spawn and makes all members around the area suffer.
Therefore if you want such things - please do them away from Spawn. However, please do not build huge spawners anywhere on the map. We have seen one so far that got out of control to the point it crashed the server anytime anyone went near, requiring the recent "reset" of the area near Spawn, making people lose Mobs (friend or foe) in order to make the area accessible.
So please build / spawn / breed responsibly
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