Re: computers
, Fri Sep 09 2011, 04:46PM

windows xp 2000 intel celeron D

trust me this computer doesnt belong in a family home.

more like a mueseum

Re: computers
, Fri Sep 09 2011, 04:53PM

lol, then upgrade ur pc, or to a mac lol.
anyone else?

Re: computers
, Fri Sep 09 2011, 09:18PM

Itsme who are you?
Name?
Waterdude?

Re: computers
, Fri Sep 09 2011, 09:32PM

Why is everyone asking me this? I don't have a minecraft account I join in for the community!

Re: computers
, Sat Sep 10 2011, 11:46AM

Taken from DXdiag:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 9/10/2011, 12:40:33
Machine name: HOMER
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor (6 CPUs), 3.6GHz (overclocked a little)
Memory: 16384MB RAM <- yes, that's 16GB of Corsair ram
Motherboard: Asus M4A89TD Pro/USB 3

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5870
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x6898)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6898&SUBSYS_29611682&REV_00
Display Memory: 1024 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1024 MB
Shared Memory: 3835 MB
Current Mode: 6048 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz) <- triple screen using eyefinity
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: SyncMaster
Monitor Id: SAM0524
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: SyncMaster
Monitor Id: SAM0524
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: SyncMaster
Monitor Id: SAM0524
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: Displayport External

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Logitech G27 Racing Wheel USB
Device Name: Korg Micro Key Keyboard


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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 402.1 GB
Total Space: 953.6 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: AMD 4+0 Stripe/RAID0 SCSI Disk Device

Re: computers
SampleName, Sat Sep 10 2011, 12:35PM

Guys, even Broonie said that he knows who it is, and won't bring us harm.

So why can't we just just let him be? There's plenty of people who have joined because of the community (though they did play with us). CFUK is where it is today, because we do have an awesome community.

Re: computers
, Sat Sep 10 2011, 01:54PM

Guys, even Broonie said that he knows who it is, and won't bring us harm.

So why can't we just just let him be? There's plenty of people who have joined because of the community (though they did play with us). CFUK is where it is today, because we do have an awesome community.

SampleName

said like a true moderator!

Re: computers
Psychosis86, Sun Sep 11 2011, 10:52PM

Im runnin a force 2 quantum flux modulor. 5 big jesus's of creme capacitors. 12inch toast ripper and a frightningly fast big flopple. Twice. Which only osclates with 5 donkeys

Re: computers
Aconan, Sun Sep 11 2011, 11:13PM

AMD 955
Radeon HD 5770
Windows 7
4GB ram

Re: computers
, Mon Sep 12 2011, 02:38PM

I5 2500k, GTX580, custom NXZT phantom, dual rad watercooled \o/ with blue leds and awesome fans

Re: computers
, Mon Sep 12 2011, 10:28PM

I5 2500k, GTX580, custom NXZT phantom, dual rad watercooled \o/ with blue leds and awesome fans

shayper09

A true mummy's boy

D'awwww

Re: computers
, Mon Sep 12 2011, 11:36PM

I've got a laptop. I don't like those box-type computers with their messy wires and gadgets and gizmos. I bought my first laptop pretty much ten years ago, and I'm never going back to those horrid boxes with ten kilometers of wire hanging here and there.

Re: computers
Aconan, Tue Sep 13 2011, 01:23AM

Desktop computers TheMZL?

To be fair, they have come on a fair bit since the ones 10 years ago. Far less wire for me and most have very good wire sorting.

Re: computers
, Tue Sep 13 2011, 02:59PM

richie hardly, its my brothers and he lets me use it because hes awesome

Re: computers
, Tue Sep 13 2011, 08:45PM

I've got a laptop. I don't like those box-type computers with their messy wires and gadgets and gizmos. I bought my first laptop pretty much ten years ago, and I'm never going back to those horrid boxes with ten kilometers of wire hanging here and there.

TheMZL

The 'box type computers with messy wires' are called tower pcs. I had one before my laptop, it came with pentium 4s. Yep, it's was that old until I replaced it with a laptop a couple of years ago.

But I'm getting an iMac soon, which is an all-in-one mac desktop which doesn't require a tower and all the techu stuff is fitted into one, big monitor!

The iMac I might get will be the core i5 2.5 ghz model.
Question is, will it be good enough to play minecraft classic on? And the demo for the beta?

Re: computers
, Tue Sep 13 2011, 08:55PM

that iMac will depend mostly on the graphics card for any form of gaming.

personally I'd think twice about an "all in one" solution, as you will have as few upgrade options/replacement parts as a laptop.

[edit] also, if you have a beast of a graphics card i'd be wary of heat issues as it gets older and dust starts to accumilate. monitor components can get as hot as the inside of a well ventilated Tower case, so in a restricted case with PSU, monitor, big intel chip and decents graphics card.... i'd take out an extended 5 year warranty on that cos i'd expect it to fail just after the warranty expires!!

Re: computers
Stevetaz, Tue Sep 13 2011, 09:36PM

Dont know. Its going out of my window anyway. Its a desktop with a flat screen

Re: computers
, Wed Sep 14 2011, 06:28AM

Ok, diablo, so is AMD radeon HD 6750 with 512mb good alongside a 2.5 GHZ core i5 proccessor then?

Or shall I save another £250 and get the 2.7 GHZ core i5 with AMD radeon HD 6770 512mb graphics iMac?

Re: computers
, Wed Sep 14 2011, 10:32AM

get the 1gb radeon version for future compatibility and that will last you a good few years of gaming (until the whole all-in-one system overheats and dies and you use your extended warranty to get another )

some games are already listed as needing 512mb graphics in minimum specs with 1gb recommended

tip for AMD/ATI cards. the Sapphire brand cards are just as good as the branded ATI's. they use the exact same chip inside and there's no noticable difference in power, but big difference in price tag. Although if you're going mac, i'm guessing cost isn't an issue

Re: computers
, Wed Sep 14 2011, 01:04PM

28" LCD TV
Rocking curvy seat with built in speakers.
HDMI output HD 5770 x2 in crossfire.
AMD 3.2GHz quad core CPU
Windows 7 OEM
4GB Ram
Blue LEDs with two side vent fans in a VENTO case.
Headphones with mic,
cheap logitech mouse i took apart and repaired myself,
my amazing A4 paper mousemat.

Re: computers
, Wed Sep 14 2011, 03:32PM

Btw itsme if you plan to game on a imac that is the worse thing you can do
If you have the money to buy a imac invest in some Pc parts at the same price as a imac (Not sure how much there worth but im quessing alot) It will be much more powerful.

Re: computers
, Wed Sep 14 2011, 03:48PM

actually macs are very good for gaming. you're just paying a much higher price for the apple branding

Re: computers
, Wed Sep 14 2011, 04:24PM

actually macs are very good for gaming. you're just paying a much higher price for the apple branding

diablothe2nd

I think too as well. As well as the high price.
To save up for even the lowest end iMac is more than a challenge for my age when it comes to saving up for that kind of thing.

But I don't know whether the amount of RAM you also have affects the speed of gaming, since I've also heard from others that iMacs can be good at gaming, even the lowest end one.

To be honest with you, diablo, what makes gaming fast on macs/pcs? Like the processors, RAM, that kind of thing. And what iMac would also be best for me? My budget is £1400 for an iMac at the most

Re: computers
, Wed Sep 14 2011, 08:21PM

i remember the time when i went on my mums imac, and it wouldnt even run runescape, bad times.

Re: computers
BRooNiE, Wed Sep 14 2011, 09:21PM

actually macs are very good for gaming. you're just paying a much higher price for the apple branding

diablothe2nd

Macs are high end PC equipment, with Apple branding and an Apple OS.

Re: computers
, Wed Sep 14 2011, 09:32PM

Macs are high end PC equipment, with Apple branding and an Apple OS.

BRooNiE

High end X86 hardware with a Unix/linux-ish based operating system plastered with apple logos and a higher pricetag

it was justified pricing with the likes of the G5's etc. but not now with standard PC hardware.

i'm not knocking it though. If i could afford one I'd get one as I'm a Linux/Unix fan and loathe anything Microsoft. I'm only using win7 now until I get better support for my tri screen setup and wheel/pedals

on a side note, I still boot up my Amiga A1200 with Blizzard 060 Accelerator card at least every month. Cant beat the 1.25 second boot up times to useable web browsing. Ah it may be 20 year old tech, but it's still faster and less buggy than today's crap I miss the old macs too... Motorola Processors FTW!

anyway i'm going off subject now

Re: computers
, Wed Sep 14 2011, 09:43PM

what makes gaming fast on macs/pcs? Like the processors, RAM, that kind of thing. And what iMac would also be best for me? My budget is £1400 for an iMac at the most

itsme

well, I look at it like this. at the top, for 3d gaming your graphics card is the be all and end all. if you have a slow or underpowered graphics card, your cpu will need to do more work which could be better used on other things like controlling other hardware.

CPU speed in my opinion mostly affects the time it takes for games/software to load (also dependant on HD speeds but more on that later). This though is also dependant on how much ram you have.

The more ram you have, the less it needs to keep accessing the hard disk. when you run out of ram your pc will start using Swap space, which will grind your harddrive and slow things down considerably. bare in mind that ram is 1000's times faster to access than a hard drive. so the more your pc can use it's ram, the better.

when you double click to launch a game, the first thing that will happen is the computer will read the data from the hard drive and place it in ram. the cpu will then use what is stored in ram and then pass functions to other parts of your pc, the sound card, graphics card etc. and then you start to see/hear the game. once the game is running though, provided it has enough ram it'll run as fast as it possibly can. if it's hindered by having to read from the hard drive, lag, long loading times, frame rate drops will happen.

so really, to take the weight off the hard drive and cpu, ram is the thing to not scrimp on as well as your graphics card. the difference between an i5 2.5 and a i5 2.7 will be barely noticeable at all.

if you're fine with waiting a few seconds longer for loading things, but want a smooth gaming experience once it's running stick with that line of thought.

if you want blazingly fast loading times, going SSD will help, going SSD in a raid array will help even more, but your starting to add more serious dosh to the mix at that point.

Re: computers
Aconan, Wed Sep 14 2011, 09:47PM

You can make a very capable machine for about £500-750.

Re: computers
, Wed Sep 14 2011, 09:49PM

You can make a very capable machine for about £500-750.

Mulan

yes you can. all those specs of mine are from a £600 budget and that'll last me at least 5 years before i start dropping to the min specs of games.

Re: computers
, Wed Sep 14 2011, 10:02PM

if you're pretty pc savvy though itsme or at least have a tech/mac savvy friend close by that can come around to help you in physical form, it's worth considering a Hackintosh. Basically you build a PC using off the shelf parts that are compatible with MacOSX and go from there. This is a very grey area though as the EULA for MacOSX doen't allow this, so you'll be sacrificing on tech support, but you'll eseentially be getting a powerful mac for less than half the price. I've considered doing this myself actually. but this option is really for hardcore enthusiasts that really know what they're doing.

Re: computers
, Thu Sep 15 2011, 01:24AM

This is what im currently running:

Intel Celeron D 2.0 Single Core Processor
1GB DDR2 Ram
Intel GMA995 integrated graphics

Come at me bro

Seriously but, 5 days until my birthday then i'm building a rig

Re: computers
, Thu Sep 15 2011, 02:08AM

I have a 2007 macbook. Yeah.

Technical specs:
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 1.83 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 2 MB
Memory: 2 GB

Re: computers
, Thu Sep 15 2011, 03:18AM

I've looked into Hackintoshes, diablo, and it looks pretty hardcore to make.
I also kinda forgot to mention also that minecraft classic/beta demo will be the best I'll Play as a 'game' on my iMac,

Plus, I can use full screen on os x lion, so minecraft on a big 21/27 inch screen all the way baby!

Re: computers
, Thu Sep 15 2011, 07:37AM

Itsme, if you're only buying a mac to play minecraft on, that's one expensive way to play it!

Re: computers
, Thu Sep 15 2011, 09:07PM

Diablo, minecraft won't be the only thing I do on my iMac! I mean as in probably the only proper GAME I play on my mac! I do use my mac, for other stuff, like YouTube, Facebook, general safari stuff, and all sorts of other things.
The main reason I'm going mac, diablo, is the big processor, (ie i5, i7) and the graphics chip, like radeon. As well as a big screen and the fact it is an all-in-one computer, so none of this 'kilometres of wire' stuff as well!

And diablo, I think you should get a job in tech or something, cos of all this computer knowledge that you know about can get you serious money!

Re: computers
, Fri Sep 16 2011, 08:53PM

^^ Oh dear... You do realise you can build a PC with an i7 2600k, gtx 580 SLi and watercooling for less than you can buy a mac with an i7 and some crappy GFX card? And miles of wire takes about 5-10 minutes to make it look awesome. As so:

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z478/Shayper/IMG_0076.jpg

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z478/Shayper/IMG_0079.jpg

Show me a mac as awesome as that for the money

Oh and macs can't overclock. Like this anyway...

[Image removed due to it being too large]

Mod note: "Please resize large images if posted directly into a thread."

Re: computers
, Sat Sep 17 2011, 08:01AM

Shayper, what you dont realise is that I don't know much about PCS and macs as much as you guys do!

Anyway, with your help and my careful thinking and I've decided i might get an all-in-pc, or a powerful 17-inch laptop.

Just looked around the dell website, and I've seen 2 I like:

Dell xps 17
Processor    2nd generation Intel® Core™ i5-2540M processor 2.60 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 3.30 GHz   
Operating System   English Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium (64 BIT)   
Display   17.3"(44 cm) HD+ WLED True-Life (1600x900) with 2.0 Mega Pixel Integrated Camera   
Memory*   6GB* Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz   
Hard Drive    750GB* SATA hard drive (7200RPM)  
EDIT: a 1GB Dedicated graphics card with no name :S

Then there is the dell all-in-one:

Processor
AMD® Athlon™ II X2 245e
Operating System
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64bit
Memory*
Up to 4GB* Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333Mhz - 2 DIMMS
Hard Drive
Up to 500GB* hard drive
Optical Drive
8X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW), write to CD/DVD
Video Card
512MB ATI® Mobility Radeon™ HD 5470 Graphics

I could get a tower pc and monitor, but my dad won't let me have one since there are 'too many wires' involved in it, unless you guys say different.

Re: computers
, Sat Sep 17 2011, 09:04AM

Just buy parts and build it you're self!
If you do it right there will be pretty much "No wires" showing
Btw shayper you build is amazing

Re: computers
, Sat Sep 17 2011, 10:06AM

Well Joe I don't know how to build one! I find it too complicated to build one really and is it really tru that there are 'too many wires' when unvolves tower pcs?

Re: computers
, Sat Sep 17 2011, 11:40AM

hehe thanks joe

Re: computers
, Sun Sep 18 2011, 03:37PM

itsme, for the love of god, please never ever go for a dell pc

Look on Novatech for a barebones bundle, all you need to do is add a hard drive and a cd drive and you're good to go, you can get some decent mid-spec barebones bundles for around £150-£200

Re: computers
, Sun Sep 18 2011, 07:51PM

Meh, just went best buy near lakeside yesterday. Had a look in there. I already know what laptop I'm getting. It's a big 17.3 inch hp with a core i3 proccessor and 4th of RAM (which I will upgrade to 8!) and a BIG 640gb harddrive!

EDIT: I've looked into novatech, and they are not for me. They do tower pc bundles, but not laptop ones. Anyway ive made my my mind up.

Re: computers
Ryona4, Sun Sep 18 2011, 11:52PM

Building is the best way to save a buck and get maximum efficiency.

Re: computers
, Mon Sep 19 2011, 03:07PM

Building is the best way to save a buck and get maximum efficiency.

Ryona4

Like I said before, the only pc kits out there are for building tower pcs!
If there is a laptop building kit, then tell me, but as I'm also aware they are too complicated to build!

Re: computers
, Tue Sep 20 2011, 09:06AM

there are barebones laptop kits out there, but they're not really cost effective.

Re: computers
, Sat Sep 24 2011, 07:08AM

Meh I'm gonna just go for mac., like I originally did. Whether it will play minecraft or not. Minecraft won't be the only thing I do on there as well.

Re: computers
LowRezz, Tue Sep 27 2011, 03:18AM

windows 7
hd 6950
amd xt1100
8gb ram

Re: computers
ninjanpirate, Tue Sep 27 2011, 08:19AM

You can make a very capable machine for about £500-750.

Mulan

Thats the price bracket that I'm going for, however, have you included the OS and Office Software, because when I've been looking around that has jumped the price up massively for me, and so not sure if i can afford a decent computer, when choosing my own componants

Re: computers
, Wed Sep 28 2011, 09:05PM

You can make a very capable machine for about £500-750.

Mulan

Thats the price bracket that I'm going for, however, have you included the OS and Office Software, because when I've been looking around that has jumped the price up massively for me, and so not sure if i can afford a decent computer, when choosing my own componants

ninjanpirate

look on pcspecialist.co.uk and go onto 'mini pcs' i managed to make a combo coming to £845. and thats with a monitor.

ill give you a link to it. its below

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers/intel-top-spec-mini-pc/

tell me if it doesnt work.

Re: computers
, Tue Oct 11 2011, 08:45PM

Anyway, I think that macs are targeted at an audience not pointing at the types of people that buy Thier macs, which is why most people complain about the price. Macs and apple products are aimed at people who have the £££ and have the bollux to buy Thier stuff!

Bug I'm still going mac tho, and sorry for the bad language, had to get it off my chest!

Re: computers
, Tue Oct 18 2011, 12:45PM

errr i need to update my computer specs... as i've another Radeon 5870 in the post due tomorrow...

i think that in crossfire should be about tolerable </sarcasm>

Re: computers
Tanpeel, Tue Oct 18 2011, 01:27PM

Hahahahaha D2, when I saw on the Battlefield 3 thread that your setup was struggling with the highest settings, I did wonder if you were going to go for dual-graphics. Lo and behold...

Re: computers
, Tue Oct 18 2011, 01:49PM

yeah when i roll at 6048x1080 triple monitor, a crossfire setup was inevitable... I actually planned for it when i built my pc but my budget at the time didn't allow for the extra 5870.

I'll be going 4x SSD in RAID0 next.... then maybe watercooling and pushing my 1100T to 4.5ghz

Re: computers
, Fri Oct 21 2011, 11:43PM

Well if anybody in the thread a looking for custom built pc for cheap here are some specs:
Amd x2 555 BE (You can oc these to work as the same lvl as a x4 955)
MSI Radeon 6850 cyclone
Asus M5A78L-M LX AMD Socket AM3 mobo
650 watt powersupply of ur choice and any type of 4gb ram (Cheapest for lowest price range) This is should come to 400 quid ish without a case and dvd drive

Re: computers
, Sat Oct 22 2011, 07:08AM

you call £400 cheap?
you billionare you!

Re: computers
, Sat Oct 22 2011, 08:16AM

Well computer wise 400 quid is quite cheap. It's the price of a decent laptop

Re: computers
, Wed Oct 26 2011, 09:30PM

has anyone had any experience with PCIe SSD drives?

i'm eyeing up this:

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/120gb-ocz-revodrive-3-25nm-mlc-flash-x4-slot-pci-e-read-975mb-s-write-875mb-s-120k-iops

as opposed to buying 4 smaller ssds and putting them in raid0.

i can't have a 16x card as much as i'd like to, cos both those slots are taken by my two 5870's but i do have an 8x spare.

Re: computers
, Sat Nov 19 2011, 12:33AM

Sorry, I'm just so excited right now that even if i posted this message on a million forums, it'd not be enough, but one or two may cure the itch enough to go to bed, but....


My 20 year old Amiga 1200 is having an upgrade or ten

the Blizzard 060 @ 50Mhz expansion i've had for a few years is gunna get a real run for it's money

I'm so excited i'm gunna rush around the house like a hippy on speed and leave without saying why or what




<3 AmigA